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Notting Hill Fire
14 June 2017 17:19 Post ID: #1539423 - in reply to #1539356
Legend MO
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One things for sure when the dust settles the people responsible for negligence won't get touched it will be the lesser down flunkeys
And wot they gonna get a couple of years???
A thread in hof made a very good point we will probably never know the names of all victims because there is a good chance Tennant's sold there keys and there would be loads of illegals in there who nobody knows about so far I have not seen one white person being interviewed not saying there isn't any but so far all Africans and Muslims!
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14 June 2017 17:50 Post ID: #1539426 - in reply to #1539406
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BigPaul - 14/6/2017 14:18

Wall loyal - 14/6/2017 13:08

They have now got to look to install sprinkler systems & extractor fans that kick in on the stairwells & floor landings in every high rise blocks then that would help when things like this happen they spent £10 mill doing this block up surely someone would have thought what if there is a fire ?


Sprinklers are not the answer in buildings such as this. The list of reasons why is long, but, please just take it from me that is true.

Passive fire protection measures failed here. (big time)
If somebody does not do jail time, there has not been justice.


This.
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14 June 2017 17:58 Post ID: #1539427 - in reply to #1539356
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Firstly FB set up below the fire floor only.

Fans are no good. If doors are open onto the floors this feeds the fire. These systems are manually controled by the fire brigade only.

No need for sprinklers if the stairwell is protected as it should be.

Lastly there is no requirement to have fire drills or fire alarms in domestic blocks.

I would not be suprised if someone get banged up for this.
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14 June 2017 18:07 Post ID: #1539428 - in reply to #1539427
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"London Fire Brigade's Steve Apter tells reporters: "Apart from those who were able to rescue themselves, the fire brigade rescued 65 individuals who were handed over to the care of the London ambulance service."



65 lives saved (hopefully).
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14 June 2017 18:39 Post ID: #1539429 - in reply to #1539356
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65 not many got to be a lot of chard up's I wouldn't fancy the job of sifting through that lot although someone's got to do it!
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14 June 2017 19:09 Post ID: #1539435 - in reply to #1539356
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All major components of a building should have fire integrity (normally a minimum of 1 hour)

After the Camberwell blaze word would have gone round to all councils as to what extra preventative fire measures should be in place, this was obviously ignored.

If the only means of escape from fire was a single staircase, as a minimum that staircase should have been pressurised.

The fire officer who signed off this building needs looking at, also the tender process and awarding of the contract to the exterior cladding company needs investigating, obviously the fire rating of the cladding was not sufficient, which should have been checked before the fitting stage.
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14 June 2017 20:16 Post ID: #1539442 - in reply to #1539356
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We-my company-are currently building a 3 floor science block for a college, part of the external fabric of this build is copper cladding. The very nature of cladding means there is a cavity behind it, this cavity can act as a funnel for fire, this maybe what happened last night.

In the instance of our build we have to install certain fire breaks on the edge of the windows apertures. I had this very conversation with the building control officer (BCO) last week.

For the last 6/7 years I have been working, building refurbishing in the education sector. Yiu would be surprised at how much input there is from fire consultants, the BCO and the Fire Brigade to get stuff approved and signed off.
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14 June 2017 20:49 Post ID: #1539447 - in reply to #1539442
FireWall - 14/6/2017 20:16

We-my company-are currently building a 3 floor science block for a college, part of the external fabric of this build is copper cladding. The very nature of cladding means there is a cavity behind it, this cavity can act as a funnel for fire, this maybe what happened last night.

In the instance of our build we have to install certain fire breaks on the edge of the windows apertures. I had this very conversation with the building control officer (BCO) last week.

For the last 6/7 years I have been working, building refurbishing in the education sector. Yiu would be surprised at how much input there is from fire consultants, the BCO and the Fire Brigade to get stuff approved and signed off.


Was somebody on the tv earlier local resident but seemed to know what he was talking about and he said about the cavity and funnel also said the cladding went up like cardboard and spread and if you look at the nighttime videos of the fire you can see this.
So looks like you could be correct.
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14 June 2017 23:02 Post ID: #1539458 - in reply to #1539442
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FireWall - 14/6/2017 20:16

We-my company-are currently building a 3 floor science block for a college, part of the external fabric of this build is copper cladding. The very nature of cladding means there is a cavity behind it, this cavity can act as a funnel for fire, this maybe what happened last night.

In the instance of our build we have to install certain fire breaks on the edge of the windows apertures. I had this very conversation with the building control officer (BCO) last week.

For the last 6/7 years I have been working, building refurbishing in the education sector. Yiu would be surprised at how much input there is from fire consultants, the BCO and the Fire Brigade to get stuff approved and signed off.


So how the fuck was this reverb approved???
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15 June 2017 20:32 Post ID: #1539537 - in reply to #1539356
Talking about cladding some people on the news was saying the only reason the councils are doing this is to make it look good for the wealthy locals and potential new buyers in the area now i why renewal offered millwall fucking cladding yes to make it look good to the potential buyers i bet they hope millwall go up in flames.
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15 June 2017 21:16 Post ID: #1539542 - in reply to #1539356
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Yes the cladding for the Den was only for the new home owners benefit, MFC was getting fuck all from the development. Even the parking is so the council can solve a twenty year old problem.
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