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The Vietnam War - BBC4 & iPlayer
11 October 2017 22:33 Post ID: #1557132
GeroniMO
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Any one watching this?
A ten episode documentary film series directed by Ken Burns and Lynn Novick.
Ten years in the making with a lot of footage from the communist side. It’s pretty heavy going, but quite in depth and worth a watch if you have @ny interest in that war.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b096k7q7

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11 October 2017 22:36 Post ID: #1557133 - in reply to #1557132
Mate watched one episode last night about the embassy not sure if it was the same series but great watch really riveting.

Edited by waterloowacker 11/10/2017 22:37
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11 October 2017 22:41 Post ID: #1557134 - in reply to #1557132
Supreme MO
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Yes, and BBC 4 is my favourite TV channel. There much of quality there.
Something to suit all tastes.
It was art tonight, which does not interest me. They have also done some great rock and pop documentaries too.

Back to Vietnam.....it was going on when I was a young man of drafting age. It has always fascinated and terrified me in equal measure. The series is excellent. The war was horrific and utterly pointless.
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12 October 2017 00:36 Post ID: #1557137 - in reply to #1557132
Sir MO
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I have been using a vpn and watching it from its American channel.... brilliant watching on episode 3 ...
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12 October 2017 00:42 Post ID: #1557139 - in reply to #1557132
Sir MO
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Hope you overseas boys have paid the BBC licence fee. I bet you ticked the box that says you've got one
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12 October 2017 02:04 Post ID: #1557141 - in reply to #1557132
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I was there for 33 long years.
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12 October 2017 02:23 Post ID: #1557143 - in reply to #1557132
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Coincidently a bird i know here, who's dad was in Vietnam, was telling me just the other day to watch that - ironically i can't get that series here at the moment.

I read a book many years ago called Tiger Force about a US unit who basically murdered civilians everywhere they went... Pretty fucking nasty.

On a lighter note i love taking the non-initiated to Indian Restaurants, and when the waiter asks 'Any Nan?' enthusiastically encourage someone to order a 'Viet'. It's never not funny when they order!
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12 October 2017 07:29 Post ID: #1557144 - in reply to #1557134
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BigPaul - 11/10/2017 22:41

Yes, and BBC 4 is my favourite TV channel. There much of quality there.
Something to suit all tastes.
It was art tonight, which does not interest me. They have also done some great rock and pop documentaries too.

Back to Vietnam.....it was going on when I was a young man of drafting age. It has always fascinated and terrified me in equal measure. The series is excellent. The war was horrific and utterly pointless.


As a young man, in the summer of 1973 I was living and working on a Greek island. One week the aircraft carrier the JF Kennedy docked in Piraeus, three GI's on some sort of shore leave washed up where I was. Two black blokes from New York and a short stocky Hawaiian that looked like a rugby player, all conscripted. One of the New Yorkers was the race relations officer on the the ship that had 5,000 men on board.

Had an afternoon of smoking joints and drinking Metaxa with them, they were heading for Vietnam and were completely envious of my freedom, the reality of the difference between us was stark. I was either heading to Germany to work or catching the Magic Bus east from Istanbul, them, going to war.
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12 October 2017 07:47 Post ID: #1557147 - in reply to #1557139
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craywall70 - 12/10/2017 01:42

Hope you overseas boys have paid the BBC licence fee. I bet you ticked the box that says you've got one :nofinger:


You pay the TV licence here combined with the rates bill. I know nothing goes to the BBC, but I don't watch French telly much, so I reckon it evens itself out.

It's 135 euros per year, so not cheap.
BBC do not have the right to broadcast here, so they can't really ask me for a licence fee, can they?
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12 October 2017 08:04 Post ID: #1557148 - in reply to #1557132
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See the debate keeps getting kicked into the long grass, first it was the General Election then it was set for Monday 16th Oct it's now been put back once more until 20th Nov, it's called studying the calendar to see who is unlikely to be available and so speak against it or searching for a bad news day.
Everything is stage managed to kill off any opposition, the BBC keep sending out stock reply's to all complaints even though figures show that it is a biased organisation in it's broadcast and Pravda would be proud of it's output.
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12 October 2017 09:13 Post ID: #1557155 - in reply to #1557132
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Had an afternoon of smoking joints and drinking Metaxa with them, they were heading for Vietnam and were completely envious of my freedom, the reality of the difference between us was stark. I was either heading to Germany to work or catching the Magic Bus east from Istanbul, them, going to war.


I'm guessing FW that you will never know if they survived intact or not?
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12 October 2017 10:18 Post ID: #1557159 - in reply to #1557132
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The yanks showing the world what wankers they really are, could not beat a rag tag army, fair play to Vietnam
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12 October 2017 10:41 Post ID: #1557162 - in reply to #1557159
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kevrelles - 12/10/2017 10:18

The yanks showing the world what wankers they really are, could not beat a rag tag army, fair play to Vietnam


Kev, you ever been to Vietnam? I know the Philippines is your thing. They are a cold hearted hardy race, I'm not sure that the Yanks are 'all that' when it comes to conflict, however, I doubt that anyone would have beaten or sorted out Vietnam.

In 1979 the Chinese tried it on in the Northern provinces and got a bloody nose, at the same time the Vietnamese had invaded Cambodia (100,000 troops) to get rid of Pol Pot, China lost thousands of 'advisors' in Cambodia during this time. Hence the dust up in the North of Vietnam.

I'm not saying the Septic's aren't tossers, just that the Veit are ridiculously hard.
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12 October 2017 11:07 Post ID: #1557168 - in reply to #1557132
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they as soft as shit, the americans still lose, wankers, always have been always will be
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12 October 2017 15:23 Post ID: #1557192 - in reply to #1557132
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Excellent series and have watched 5 episodes so far Interesting learning that the AK47 rifle used by the NKA and Vietcong was far superior to the US M16. Must say only good thing old dirty mac Harold Wilson did was to keep us out of that conflict.
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12 October 2017 15:39 Post ID: #1557194 - in reply to #1557132
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Some other good stuff by Ken Burns on Netflix for any historians - watch one about the Roservelts (spelling )
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12 October 2017 17:49 Post ID: #1557202 - in reply to #1557192
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albertrn - 12/10/2017 15:23

Excellent series and have watched 5 episodes so far Interesting learning that the AK47 rifle used by the NKA and Vietcong was far superior to the US M16. Must say only good thing old dirty mac Harold Wilson did was to keep us out of that conflict.


Really? In what way was it superior? I know the AK is 762 and the version of the M16 was likely 556, and that AKs are very hardy weapons requiring little care and probably more robust in the harsh jungle environment, but surely they would not have been as accurate as the M16? Many engagements would be at short range in the jungle so maybe accuracy wasn't so important?
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