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Rees-Mog on question time tonight
28 October 2017 17:39 Post ID: #1558832 - in reply to #1558788
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midway lion - 28/10/2017 11:40

We are supposed to be a working class club with working class
values, yet some on here are creaming their pants over the
possibility of a posh, rich, chinless wonder educated at Eaton
becoming PM, WTF ! :sadno:


And the other option is a bloke that was privately educated, lived in a 7 bedroom house yet tries to be a man of the people. Corbyn is a traitorous cunt who would propel us into bankruptcy within a year
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28 October 2017 19:30 Post ID: #1558846 - in reply to #1558678
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Corbyn has worked In Westminster for 30 years and only now decides to be the voice of wisdom on women's rights against abuse in Westminster. He gets more and more embarrassing every day.
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29 October 2017 00:05 Post ID: #1558871 - in reply to #1558788
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midway lion - 28/10/2017 11:40

We are supposed to be a working class club with working class
values, yet some on here are creaming their pants over the
possibility of a posh, rich, chinless wonder educated at Eaton
becoming PM, WTF ! :sadno:



I judge people by their ability and intelligence, not class.

We are in the middle of the most important political maelstrom since the end of the 2nd World War and we need clear, unmuddied thinking.

Couldn't give a fuck if that came from a sink estate in Liverpool or Eton. The people I put forward are those whom i think will get us through this anger period - and deal with the bullies of Brussels in the most appropriate manner.



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29 October 2017 00:11 Post ID: #1558872 - in reply to #1558678
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And that is exactly the problem with many Labour supporters. Either they vote 'Labour' because their dad did, or they do so because they hate 'posh' people. Unfortunately, they are too thick to realize that the champagne socialists are laughing at them. Have a look at the provisions of Tony Benn's will. Not much socialism there. I realize that there are lots of Tories that vote Conservative because they love money, but I think there are many others, like me, who consider each vote on its merits. I thought long and hard and did lots of research before voting in the EU Referendum. I wouldn't dream of letting my country down by voting for what 'my' party told me to vote for.
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29 October 2017 11:48 Post ID: #1558911 - in reply to #1558678
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So my being a life long Labour and union supporter makes me
a problem ? Your assuming I'm thick, hate people ?
Your generalising TD makes you the prejudiced one.
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29 October 2017 12:45 Post ID: #1558918 - in reply to #1558678
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I'm a life-long Millwall supporter.

But when England send in a team to win the World Cup I really don't want any of our current Lions side in that squad if we are to stand any chance of clinching the tournament....

Horses for courses: best of the available talent, please. And Labour, at this moment in time, are woefully short of that.
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29 October 2017 15:32 Post ID: #1558928 - in reply to #1558678
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That wasn't the point I was trying to make Whisky. I'm no Corbinista,
detest the man. What we should be doing is finding decent men
to lead this country. Men with strong moral values and you being
a member of the NUJ must have some socialist leanings left in you.
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29 October 2017 16:01 Post ID: #1558930 - in reply to #1558928
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midway lion - 29/10/2017 15:32

That wasn't the point I was trying to make Whisky. I'm no Corbinista,
detest the man. What we should be doing is finding decent men
to lead this country. Men with strong moral values and you being
a member of the NUJ must have some socialist leanings left in you.



Of course I do. But those socialist leanings have with time been fashioned by realism.

And if you are looking for someone with serious moral values, then JRM must be topping the list. He's the most honest politician out there. Oddly enough, rather well liked as a person by many Labour MPs.

Since 1974 I have been meeting and interviewing politicians from councillors to Prime Ministers. In fact, in a pub with a present member of the cabinet just this week.

And one thing I learned (as someone who used to write speeches for Labour MPs) is that more Tory politicians have a genuine social conscience than you might believe....and at least they are more honest and open than the Champagne Socialist brigade I have met climbing up the greasy pole.

And the reason I stopped writing for the Labour guy? Because he was far more interested in his career than his constituents; by no means alone from others I met.

I was at meeting with my local MP just a few weeks ago. Tories all, though I am not a member. And you'd be shocked that about 75% of the meeting was taken up by those trying to fight and do right for the underprivilaged cross the spectrum. The odd similar meeting I attended with Labour was mainly about minority, ethnic PC stuff. It felt just very wrong and full of people with brainless gripes and chips on there shoulder rather than genuine concerns and common sense.

For the Many Not the Few. Really? Labour have become the exact opposite in my experience...

There is a vast difference between reality and perception, Midway.




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29 October 2017 16:37 Post ID: #1558933 - in reply to #1558911
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midway lion - 29/10/2017 11:48

So my being a life long Labour and union supporter makes me
a problem ? Your assuming I'm thick, hate people ?
Your generalising TD makes you the prejudiced one.


There's nothing wrong with being a Labour supporter or a Trade Unionist. In fact, I'm a huge fan of both. The problem is that people vote 'Labour' because they always have done without realizing that Tony Blair's 'open door' immigration policy and the current Labour party's support for unlimited immigration are not in the interests of British workers.

This country needs a strong Labour Party and strong Trade Unions to protect workers from exploitation. At the moment, both are pro unlimited immigration which drives down wages, reduces job security and pushes up house prices.
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29 October 2017 17:00 Post ID: #1558934 - in reply to #1558933
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tony_dolby - 29/10/2017 16:37

midway lion - 29/10/2017 11:48

So my being a life long Labour and union supporter makes me
a problem ? Your assuming I'm thick, hate people ?
Your generalising TD makes you the prejudiced one.


There's nothing wrong with being a Labour supporter or a Trade Unionist. In fact, I'm a huge fan of both. The problem is that people vote 'Labour' because they always have done without realizing that Tony Blair's 'open door' immigration policy and the current Labour party's support for unlimited immigration are not in the interests of British workers.

This country needs a strong Labour Party and strong Trade Unions to protect workers from exploitation. At the moment, both are pro unlimited immigration which drives down wages, reduces job security and pushes up house prices.




^^^^This something in the region of 100,000,000,000%


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