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Just Back v QP ha ha
30 December 2017 11:34 Post ID: #1566070 - in reply to #1566026
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it is the teams that can sneak 1-0 wins when not playing at exactly 100% top form that will always survive, in any league, especially this one.

The teams that lose matches like this often end up being relegated.
They look likely candidates, especially with Hollowhead in charge, bit like us when he was here really.
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30 December 2017 11:37 Post ID: #1566071 - in reply to #1566053
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onlyagame - 30/12/2017 10:02

I’ve never really understood NH’s substitutions


I will defend Harris here.

Gregory was exhausted and I guess Fred's remit was to get on the ball, carry it forward and stretch them. Which, to be fair he did - winning a few throw ins and free kicks and getting us some breathing space.

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30 December 2017 12:09 Post ID: #1566076 - in reply to #1566067
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midway lion - 30/12/2017 11:18

Surely Happy, you have to adapt your playing style to cope
with the oppositions ?


Be aware of the dangers, yes. But make them change to an unfamiliar formation to deal with us.

When we change we never seem to do too well. At home we play our game and other teams dont seem to deal with that. Maybe thats why we win at home and when we try to counter teams away by changing we lose. Just a thought.
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30 December 2017 12:09 Post ID: #1566077 - in reply to #1566026
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the hype was a bit too much yesterday and the game didn't live up to it

the result was the most important thing

in respect of players being leggy another game in 2 days and can Harris keep expecting key players such as Saville, Meredith and Hutch to play to their best without a break - are we risking injuries in the longer term - many of QPR's players' legs had gone towards the end also

is there a case for changes at Norwich or wait till Barnsley - with McLaughlin and Elliot potentially out where are the forward and fullback options - we know there aren't really CB options either
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30 December 2017 12:14 Post ID: #1566078 - in reply to #1566071
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Moody - 30/12/2017 11:37

onlyagame - 30/12/2017 10:02

I’ve never really understood NH’s substitutions


I will defend Harris here.

Gregory was exhausted and I guess Fred's remit was to get on the ball, carry it forward and stretch them. Which, to be fair he did - winning a few throw ins and free kicks and getting us some breathing space.



I will also defend Harris here with last nights changes and in general with his substitutions. this season.

In the main they have been spot on, whether defending a lead, a difficult away draw or chasing the game. Can't remember who were playing, it was a home game where he brought Craig on and went three at the back. Most of us in the stands were scratching our heads thinking Craig, really? It worked as did most of his others.

Last night was crying out for Williams and a bit of composure, Fred was fresh legs and something else for them to think about. Remember Holloway would have primed his players more than any other manager about us, Fred would be a bit of an unknown.
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30 December 2017 13:16 Post ID: #1566094 - in reply to #1566071
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Moody - 30/12/2017 11:37

onlyagame - 30/12/2017 10:02

I’ve never really understood NH’s substitutions


I will defend Harris here.

Gregory was exhausted and I guess Fred's remit was to get on the ball, carry it forward and stretch them. Which, to be fair he did - winning a few throw ins and free kicks and getting us some breathing space.



When Gregory was subbed Wallace was, understandably, knackered. I would have pushed Jed upfront alongside Morison and brought Thommo on to bring a bit more steel to the midfield and help us protect our slender lead. For the limited time Fred was on the pitch he seemed to choose the wrong option ever time. I wonder if he would benefit from going out on loan again.



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30 December 2017 13:31 Post ID: #1566096 - in reply to #1566026
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Highlight of the evening for me was Morison getting a goal at last, but a close second was the "You're getting sacked in the morning" chant which even got a lot of the west upper singing along.

LionsTV on the ball: https://youtu.be/p1Q4vqlWgd0

Edited by CrawLion 30/12/2017 14:08
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30 December 2017 14:35 Post ID: #1566099 - in reply to #1566094
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PurleyLion - 30/12/2017 13:16

Moody - 30/12/2017 11:37

onlyagame - 30/12/2017 10:02

I’ve never really understood NH’s substitutions


I will defend Harris here.

Gregory was exhausted and I guess Fred's remit was to get on the ball, carry it forward and stretch them. Which, to be fair he did - winning a few throw ins and free kicks and getting us some breathing space.





When Gregory was subbed Wallace was, understandably, knackered. I would have pushed Jed upfront alongside Morison and brought Thommo on to bring a bit more steel to the midfield and help us protect our slender lead. For the limited time Fred was on the pitch he seemed to choose the wrong option ever time. I wonder if he would benefit from going out on loan again.


Though an armchair general last night, mapping the game out from dispatches only, that was exactly the move I thought he'd make (actually, thought it be either Gregory or Wallace to go as they would both be shattered). So agree 100% Purley.

As for a loan move for Fred, perhaps a permanent one will benefit both parties and free up some funds. Wonder if he fancies a move to Loftus Road...



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30 December 2017 14:36 Post ID: #1566100 - in reply to #1566026
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All you Fred platers must have forgotten when he gave the ball away 30 yards from Archers goal trying to do some silly trick or when Tunnicliffe was unmarked ten yards out and he didn’t bother to look up for the option. I do understand the squad is a bit light but Fred just doesn’t have a football brain I’m afraid.
On the other hand Williams came on & slotted straight in (& for some reason looks stronger than ever)
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30 December 2017 15:13 Post ID: #1566106 - in reply to #1566100
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onlyagame - 30/12/2017 14:36

All you Fred platers must have forgotten when he gave the ball away 30 yards from Archers goal trying to do some silly trick or when Tunnicliffe was unmarked ten yards out and he didn’t bother to look up for the option. I do understand the squad is a bit light but Fred just doesn’t have a football brain I’m afraid.
On the other hand Williams came on & slotted straight in (& for some reason looks stronger than ever)


This. I've said before Fred probably looks mustard in training & 5-sides etc but put him in a match situation & his lack of footballing nous is shown up immediately, always choosing the wrong option & 'the pass that never was' to a completely unmarked Tunnicliffe would've sealed the 3 points without doubt.

Constantly referred to as a 'youngster' he's 21 now & should really be kicking on but it just ain't happening. The saga in the summer told its own story, make no mistake he was ready to fuck off but none of these reported premier/higher end championship teams made a concrete move for him, they probably had a good look at him & realised that power & a bit of pace ain't enough. I hate knocking our own players & when he's on the pitch I'll support him but I honestly can't see him improving.
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30 December 2017 15:44 Post ID: #1566111 - in reply to #1566029
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BigPaul - 29/12/2017 23:20

Thanks Silver.
And the waitress. I'm guessing she ignored you, as she didn't get a mention? :grin:


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30 December 2017 16:14 Post ID: #1566115 - in reply to #1566026
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First the Fred situation. He falls into the well known cliche who has his brains in his boots. For me, he plays with his head down and just Doesn't have the vision to see others around him and constantly makes the wrong decisions. The truth is that we have such a small squad that what options did NH have other than put him on the bench. With Elliott crocked and the thought that we could give him three more days to recover for the Norwich game the only other options were either Harry Smith or the young Aussie lad Brymora. Fred is better than them both.
Secondly, the cute waitress has not been at the Brockley's Rock for several months. I think she might be tickling somebody else's fancy somewhere else. Oh well!
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30 December 2017 16:49 Post ID: #1566121 - in reply to #1566026
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I think Tunnicliffe does a lot more than some people appreciate, also what a ball out to Wallace to set up the goal. Quietly goes about his game and does a good job. Covers every blade of grass and still running his nuts off after 90 minutes.
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30 December 2017 17:17 Post ID: #1566127 - in reply to #1566026
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We have runners in our team. Jed, Tunni, Gregory, Meredith, Romeo, Savile to a point. The club stats that I am privy to show that Jed consistently comes out on top.

Apart from that Savile was playing with an ankle injury yesterday which explains him slowing down as the game went on. He's having a scan in the next few days, I will be surprised if he plays on Monday.
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30 December 2017 17:33 Post ID: #1566130 - in reply to #1566115
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silverlion - 30/12/2017 16:14

First the Fred situation. He falls into the well known cliche who has his brains in his boots. For me, he plays with his head down and just Doesn't have the vision to see others around him and constantly makes the wrong decisions!


"Bees around a honeypot" was one of Anton's favourite phrases when he was coaching us (on a very junior level). Fred does not have a football brain. As Silver says, he plays with his head down and can't foresee runs or passes. Maybe he just needs to be a little less selfish and learn about the game. If not, Welling beckons whatever his agent might say about it.
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30 December 2017 22:54 Post ID: #1566172 - in reply to #1566026
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Was you at the game Froada ? Teacake was dispossessed 3 times
in quick succession in the first half leading to dangerous attacks.
He also headed a clearance to a QPR striker standing 15 yds out.
We all gave a sigh of relief when he shot straight into Archer's arms.
He has been playing ok, but last night wasn't his finest 90 minutes
in my opinion.
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31 December 2017 09:09 Post ID: #1566197 - in reply to #1566172
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midway lion - 30/12/2017 22:54

Was you at the game Froada ? Teacake was dispossessed 3 times
in quick succession in the first half leading to dangerous attacks.
He also headed a clearance to a QPR striker standing 15 yds out.
We all gave a sigh of relief when he shot straight into Archer's arms.
He has been playing ok, but last night wasn't his finest 90 minutes
in my opinion.


Both Froada and Midway have their point. Tunnicliffe performs an awfully large amount of good work that for some goes unappreciated but can get caught in possession more than we like. On the subject of being caught in possession I do think central midfielders are judged harsher then others. Take AOB for instance against QPR, how many times did he fail to laid off a simple/the correct ball, get caught in possession trying to unnecessarily beat an opponent and, in the process, allow QPR to turn defence into attack? Certainly much more than Tunnicliffe's 3 times in the 1st half but this seems to have gone unnoticed.

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