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Millwall's FA Cup pedigree
07 January 2018 11:43 Post ID: #1567182
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Superb for a club of our size & always been. 10 Quarter-Finals, 5 Semi-Finals and 1 Final.

Indeed, as mentioned before it cemented our 'Lions' nickname - I still know of no other senior club in England earning their nickname through sporting achievements. Millwall are the only club to do that.

Anyways, just saw this stat:

No team outside the Premier League has won more FA Cup games than Millwall (27) since 2003/2004.

It's deserved success too - we always take it seriously. When everyone moaned that we reached 2004 Final without playing a top flight team, I thought may be so, but we really took it seriuosly and beat better resourced divisional rivals. Perhaps other similar sized clubs should follow our lead, rather than have sour grapes.

Take Norwich City - never appeared in an FA Cup final and pretty poor record. Made changes against a Chelsea side ripe for a shock. I hope they never make a final.

Edited by Moody 9/1/2018 12:00
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07 January 2018 11:50 Post ID: #1567184 - in reply to #1567182
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It does help that 9 of the last 10 (?) draws have been at home.
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07 January 2018 12:15 Post ID: #1567186 - in reply to #1567184
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FireWall - 7/1/2018 11:50

It does help that 9 of the last 10 (?) draws have been at home.


Four Premier League sides tho.
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07 January 2018 12:17 Post ID: #1567187 - in reply to #1567184
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FireWall - 7/1/2018 11:50

It does help that 9 of the last 10 (?) draws have been at home.


Four Premier League sides tho.
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07 January 2018 13:15 Post ID: #1567195 - in reply to #1567187
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Moody - 7/1/2018 12:17

FireWall - 7/1/2018 11:50

It does help that 9 of the last 10 (?) draws have been at home.


Four Premier League sides tho.



Hmmmm. Four Premier League clubs, yes. Four Premier league sides...? I don't think so.
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07 January 2018 13:39 Post ID: #1567196 - in reply to #1567195
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whiskylion - 7/1/2018 13:15

Moody - 7/1/2018 12:17

FireWall - 7/1/2018 11:50

It does help that 9 of the last 10 (?) draws have been at home.


Four Premier League sides tho.



Hmmmm. Four Premier League clubs, yes. Four Premier league sides...? I don't think so.


True.

But we had to face the clout of a PL club - i.e. even some of the reserves were 15m plus
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07 January 2018 13:45 Post ID: #1567198 - in reply to #1567182
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look back at some of ours on duty for those games, Fred, TC, Cummings,Thommo..........hardly first teamers .
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07 January 2018 13:58 Post ID: #1567200 - in reply to #1567182
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We even managed to beat Aston Villa with Marquis goal!
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07 January 2018 14:18 Post ID: #1567207 - in reply to #1567182
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All our great FA Cup ties of the past, all our amazing successes against either reigning Football League Champions or Champions elect - Aston Villa, Manchester City, Huddersfield - against eventual FA Cup Winners like Tottenham or Sunderland (two games we lost but gloriously) - victory over record breaking Div 2 Champs Middlesbrough (creating a then record attendance of 44,000).... All the other great moments for the club were against unadulterated first team sides - completely at full strength, given injuries.

I'm sorry, but last season's run doesn't remotely register on the Richter scale against those truly giant killing games of yesteryear.

Beating a side's reserve XI doesn't really float my boat. Either as an historian or football lover and purist.

Yes, as a Millwall diehard I'm delighted we had the run and well done in beating some players with hideously over-inflated price tags. But being on the books on a Premier club doesn't make you a Premier class player.

Just look at Newport today. And Sutton Utd last season. Leeds Utd twice arrogantly sent out their reserve team and were beaten both times - because on each occasion the side was not of Championship quality.

As I say: yes, we beat a number Premier clubs last season. But, in truth, not Premier teams.


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07 January 2018 14:48 Post ID: #1567215 - in reply to #1567182
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Two of my favourite cup wins have been away from home. Arsenal 0-2 and the penalty shoot out with Chelsea after 1-1. The atmosphere at Highbury was terrific, while Stamford Bridge was toxic.
Although, my mate thinks 0-2 at Everton is up there with some of the best wins. (But, I didn't go to that game).
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07 January 2018 15:02 Post ID: #1567216 - in reply to #1567215
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Kryan Bing - 7/1/2018 14:48

Two of my favourite cup wins have been away from home. Arsenal 0-2 and the penalty shoot out with Chelsea after 1-1. The atmosphere at Highbury was terrific, while Stamford Bridge was toxic.
Although, my mate thinks 0-2 at Everton is up there with some of the best wins. (But, I didn't go to that game).



Two of my favourite cup wins have been away from home. Arsenal 0-2 and the penalty shoot out with Chelsea after 1-1. The atmosphere at Highbury was terrific, while Stamford Bridge was toxic.
Although, my mate thinks 0-2 at Everton is up there with some of the best wins. (But, I didn't go to that game).


Yes, this was against their full first teams, which really made the wins so special.

Likewise our 3-2 win at Chelsea in 1985 was so wonderful when the self-appointed hard man of the First Division Dougie Rougvie was completely battered - and bettered - by Fash.

First Team v First Team: the only matches that count.
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07 January 2018 15:18 Post ID: #1567219 - in reply to #1567216
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not so sure i'm with you on that WL, the game has moved on considerably , yes those games you mention and the sides put out were fantastic for Millwall. But today is a squad game as you know, cannot be compared with even 20 years ago.
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07 January 2018 15:30 Post ID: #1567220 - in reply to #1567182
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What is our best ever cup win?

I would argue beating the great Aston Villa side in the 1900 QFs as a Southern League team - after 3 games. Or the champions elect Manchester City at the same stage in 1937 as a Third Division side. That game is rated as the 33rd biggest cup shock of all time by this site: http://m.thegiantkillers.co.uk/site/mobile?dm_path=%2F1937millwall....
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07 January 2018 15:32 Post ID: #1567221 - in reply to #1567182
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In my lifetime, I would say the 2-0 win at Highbury in 1995.

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07 January 2018 15:34 Post ID: #1567222 - in reply to #1567182
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Apparently Millwall are responsible for more cup upsets than any other club...

http://m.thegiantkillers.co.uk/site/mobile?dm_path=%2Fmillwall.htm&...
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07 January 2018 15:39 Post ID: #1567224 - in reply to #1567220
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Moody - 7/1/2018 15:30

What is our best ever cup win?

I would argue beating the great Aston Villa side in the 1900 QFs as a Southern League team - after 3 games. Or the champions elect Manchester City at the same stage in 1937 as a Third Division side. That game is rated as the 33rd biggest cup shock of all time by this site: http://m.thegiantkillers.co.uk/site/mobile?dm_path=%2F1937millwall....


What people fail to realise today is that being in the Southern League in those days was more or less the same standard of the Football League Div 2. Indeed, off the top of my head I'm pretty sure that as a Southern League club we beat Div 2 teams in the FA Cup more often than we lost to them...

As for the game moving on...yes it had moved on from 1900 to 1937. And it has moved on from 1985 to now. Everything evolves.

But for all the argument about squads, the fact is that if a player doesn't play in the first team one week, then plays in an FA Cup tie the next, then is dropped for the next team game...then he is, by definition, a reserve team player.

No matter how much spin you want to put on it, or brain washing from clubs and self-interested parties in the media. Sorry, Baz, I just don't buy into this squad bullshit.


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07 January 2018 15:51 Post ID: #1567225 - in reply to #1567182
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At Chelsea 95 was a great night.
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